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Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 11:47:00 -
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Light: 2625m/s Precision Light: 4500m/s
Heavy: 1125m/s<-higher than cruise missiles Precision Heavy: 1500m/s <-OH HI!!! IM BROKEN BECAUSE I AM THE SAME VALUE AS A BATTLESHIP CLASS WEAPON PLEASE CHANGE MY VALUE TO ABOUT 2200-3000m/s CCP
Cruise: 750m/s Precision Cruise: 1500m/s
Even the most rabid Caldari hater has to admit this is broken. It's been broken since T2 missiles came out, how long does this have to remain broken before it is fixed?
Can we please please get this stuff fixed? ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra Shinra Alliance
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Posted - 2008.07.06 12:53:00 -
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Originally by: Carth Reynolds
Originally by: Ruciza Edited by: Ruciza on 06/07/2008 11:27:04
Originally by: Bleedingthrough
Originally by: Ruciza Edited by: Ruciza on 06/07/2008 10:29:21 To have a convincing argument you need more than screaming for more damage.
lol?! The claims of the OP are IMHO totaly valid and his suggestions reasonable.
But: You lack some convincing arguements.
I don't need arguments, the OP has a point to make, not me. His argument is MORE DAMAGE! I ask for some substance.
I don't understand how you don't follow the logic train at play here. Missile using cruisers and battlecruisers rely entirely on a frigate class weapon system to deal even modest amounts of damage to nano cruisers. Using a proper medium missile will generally result in negligable amounts of damage to the average non-pimped nano cruiser.
Gun users have more options available for engaging a nano ship. Using their own MWD to cut the angular velocity, painting the target, using tracking enhancers and computers and so forth. Missile users have one option: use precison lights or wait to die while watching your missiles follow a target until they burn out.
I have personally seen this discrepency in my own play time. When armed with HML's my Cerb manages to deliver an astounding 0 - ~10 damage per missile to the nano ships I've seen (specifically a Vagabond who ignored me and a Sac who murdered me). Since that day I've generally armed my Cerb with Assault Launchers because they are simply a better weapon system for the situations I find my Cerb in.
So, while the OP is indeed asking for more damage, I don't think it's unreasonable to want a cruiser class missile that can actually hit the average modern cruiser.
Exactly. It's a really bad time to be flying Caldari in EVE right now. Nano warfare makes Caldari look really really sad. Precision are supposed to be our defense against nanoships (remember the drawback on precision is HUGE) and they don't even have the correct explosive velocity values.
CCPs murdering of the Cerberus and crowning the Sacrilege as the king of missile cruisers also makes me very very sad. I don't mind the Sac being good or anything but wow it sure makes a Cerberus LOOK LIKE A COMPLETE JOKE.
me ->  ------ I'll make a sig later. |

Jim Raynor
Caldari Shinra
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Posted - 2008.07.16 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Ulstan Edited by: Ulstan on 16/07/2008 15:40:11 Holy crap, it's Jim Raynor!!!!!  
Now there's an old face I haven't seen around in a while. I remember us arguing for fixes to missiles waaaaaay back in the MOO days (when they were across the board terrible).
As far as Ruciza goes, there's a class of folks that thinks because missiles are widely used in PvE, they should really suck in PvP, and he falls into this category. Such trolls not really worth arguing with, as they refuse to accept basic assumptions of the need for balance. When shown that one weapon system or ship is manifestly inferior to its competitors and doesn't do the job it is supposed to, their typical response is "Yeah, and?"
Yes I have returned and it seems I have all kinds of things to complain about!!!!!!!!! ------ I'll make a sig later. |
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